Latest discussions in the Method of Levels Section in Discourse
- by @rsmarken Richard MarkenLukasz20: You mentioned sharing a “failure to appreciate” why other agents are so important here, and suggested that shared finite capacity simply makes its way into the “Remote Physical Phenomena” box of the standard B:CP diagram. That is exactly the crux of the debate. Rick’s position relies on keeping that box permanently closed, treating the […]
- by @rsmarken Richard MarkenJohnGraham: Ground zero for all this seems to be the B:CP diagram which Bruce posted, and with which Kent starts his presentation in LCS IV: Yes, that diagram can be misleading. The main problem, for this discussion, is that the feedback path from muscle tension (O) to sensory input (I) goes through “Remote Physical Phenomena” […]
- by @Lukasz20 LukHi John, Thanks for taking the time to read through the thread. Your scenarios actually highlight the exact structural distinction we are trying to establish, but grouping them all under the umbrella of “I want to go 60 but can’t” masks the underlying mathematics of *why* control is lost. In control theory, that mechanical difference […]
- by @JohnGraham John Grahamrsmarken: By the way, could you or Bruce or some other expert in this field give me a short (three sentence max) explanation of the role of feedback paths in “collective control”. Now that the discussion has ended by coming full circle, I hope you can tolerate me parking a couple of decidely inexpert observations […]
- by @wmansell WarrenThanks Rick